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    Tesla Roadster and Fisker Ocean Updates?

    Reports of cracks on frames and signs of wear on Apple's Fine Woven case raise questions about the durability of Apple's Vision Pro glasses. Rumors of a larger ASUS Zenphone 11 Ultra and high cost of Apple's case add to consumer concerns about value.

    enMarch 01, 2024

    About this Episode

    Marques, Andrew, and Miles sit down to talk about a wide range of topics including the Tesla Roadster, Apple cancelling its electric car, some Apple Vision Pro headsets cracking, and the Fisker Ocean video Marques made. Then we wrap it all up with trivia and a debate about egg dishes. Enjoy! Links: Ludwig and Neal Mohan Interview: https://bit.ly/3UZm5Sj Colin & Samir x Ludwig interview: https://bit.ly/3IliOWg Mark Gurman Apple Car: https://bit.ly/3TskZ0B Gizmodo Crackgate: https://bit.ly/48wX3gx NBT Jacklyn Uses All APV Apps: https://bit.ly/49tSxAO Joanna Stern Newsletter: https://bit.ly/49OsTqR Finewoven story: https://bit.ly/436qp4n Fisker Ocean Review: https://youtu.be/6xWXRk3yaSw?si=W8vO_qxiVM01MLp4 Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Instagram/Threads/Twitter: Waveform: https://twitter.com/WVFRM Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David Imel: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin Miles: https://www.threads.net/@carswithmiles TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    🔑 Key Takeaways

    • Elon Musk aims to complete the production design of the Tesla Roadster by the end of 2022 and unveil it, with plans to ship it in 2023. He also announced a potential collaboration with SpaceX for flight capabilities.
    • Elon Musk's humanoid AI, Humanoid Pin AI, with added rocket technology for sub-one second zero to 60 mph may face practicality and road legality issues, and its integration into Model S or Roadster remains uncertain.
    • Tesla's electric vehicles face complex challenges, including the need for large batteries, potential use of fan force technology or thrusters, and concerns over timeline and design changes. Despite these hurdles, Tesla has generally delivered vehicles that closely resemble their unveiled concepts.
    • The Tesla Roadster, with its advanced tech and impressive acceleration, could attract attention to electric vehicles, but its high cost, potential maintenance issues, and limited practicality may make it a novelty rather than a daily driver.
    • Elon Musk reveals plans for a new Tesla Roadster with record-breaking acceleration, but details like availability, pricing, and features are uncertain. Some speculate it may have a compressed air system and could take brief flight.
    • The Tesla Roadster's release date has been pushed back to 2030 due to unrealistic initial specifications and uncertainty surrounding the feasibility of the project.
    • Apple canceled Project Titan, focusing on car tech instead. This decision saves billions and allows for new opportunities, but missing out on a game-changing product.
    • Rumors and inaccuracies surround the car collections of high-profile individuals like Tim Cook and Steve Jobs, emphasizing the significance of fact-checking.
    • Some Vision Pro headset users have reported their devices cracking down the middle, causing concern and potential impact on user experience. Apple has not announced any plans for a recall or free repairs.
    • Apple's Vision Pro glasses are cracking from the same point, leading to speculation of a software bug causing overheating or a design/manufacturing issue. Users are frustrated and want Apple to take responsibility and offer solutions.
    • Reports of cracks on frames and signs of wear on Apple's Fine Woven case raise questions about the durability of Apple's Vision Pro glasses. Rumors of a larger ASUS Zenphone 11 Ultra and high cost of Apple's case add to consumer concerns about value.
    • Speakers expressed sadness over potential loss of small Zenfones but were intrigued by new Galaxy S24's features, including ultrasonic fingerprint sensor and smaller bezels. Personal preference plays a big role in smartphone market, with ongoing debate between larger, feature-rich phones and smaller, more compact devices.
    • The Pixel phone's MagSafe feature is a game-changer for wireless charging and car mounts, while SpaceX's private moon landing marks a significant milestone in space exploration.
    • Despite initial communication issues, persistence paid off in securing a Fisker Ocean for testing
    • Reviewer's assessment of Mitsubishi car labeled as worst was based on current issues, not potential software updates.
    • Reviewers don't accept money or own stocks from companies they cover, and they don't manipulate prices by spreading negative information.
    • Users find key fob unlocking issue and constant beeping/blinking of driver assistance features most annoying. Software bugs and ineffective solar roof also mentioned. Driving modes lack clear definitions, and some features are impractical.
    • While assessing a car, examine distinct features of various trims, but be aware of non-fixable issues like unresponsive buttons or ineffective solar panels. Companies should keep promises and not exaggerate future features to maintain consumer trust.
    • Though full self-driving technology isn't here yet, early adopters can enjoy its benefits today.
    • Despite disagreements on definitions and preferences, both quiche and frittatas are popular dishes for high protein, low carb options. Clear communication is crucial to avoid misunderstandings.
    • Forgetting important details can lead to missed opportunities and regret. Learn from your mistakes and move forward.

    📝 Podcast Summary

    Tesla Roadster: Delayed but Not Deterred

    Elon Musk recently announced significant updates to the long-anticipated Tesla Roadster, aiming for a production design completion and unveiling at the end of the year, with plans to ship it next year. Musk also mentioned a collaboration with SpaceX. The Roadster, initially promised in 2017, has been notoriously delayed, and skepticism surrounds its practicality as a sports car. Despite this, Musk's ambitious goals include improving the vehicle's design and potentially making it fly. The Tesla Roadster, known for its impressive specifications like a 600-mile range and a 0-60 mph time of just 1.9 seconds, continues to intrigue and divide opinions.

    Elon Musk's humanoid AI with rocket technology raises questions

    Elon Musk's humanoid AI, Humanoid Pin AI, has the potential to be the most groundbreaking product demo in history, but the addition of cold gas thrusters from rocket technology to create a sub-one second zero to 60 Tesla Roadster raises questions about its practicality and road legality. With the emergence of other fully electric hypercars, Musk may have felt the need to differentiate the SpaceX collaboration to outperform competitors. Cold gas thrusters, which are used in rockets for maneuvering and landing, are believed to be compressed air, but their size and power source for a car are uncertain. The weight-to-power ratio is a significant factor, and comparing it to other high-performance cars, the Roadster would need an impressive horsepower-to-pound ratio to achieve sub-one second zero to 60. The addition of these thrusters would require significant space and engineering, and their integration into the Model S or Roadster remains unclear.

    Balancing Power, Weight, and Practicality in Electric Vehicles

    The development of high-performance electric vehicles is a complex balancing act between power, weight, and practicality. These vehicles require large batteries to power their powerful electric motors, leading to increased weight. Innovations like fan force technology and potential use of thrusters aim to mitigate the need for excessive horsepower, but the road legality and feasibility of such technologies remain uncertain. The hype surrounding electric vehicles, particularly the Tesla Roadster, has led to significant financial investments from consumers. However, the timeline for delivery and potential changes to the design have raised concerns. Despite these challenges, Tesla has generally delivered vehicles that closely resemble their unveiled concepts, setting it apart from other automakers.

    Tesla Roadster as a halo car for EVs

    The Tesla Roadster, despite being an expensive and impractical car, could serve as a halo car for electric vehicles, showcasing advanced technology and making Tesla appear cool. However, this radical redesign, which may include SpaceX tech, could potentially increase the cost and raise questions about maintenance, noise levels, and street legality. It's unclear if this feature would be optional or if owning the car would grant access to it. Additionally, the potential need for specialized maintenance and the loud noise level are concerns. The Roadster's unique selling point might be its impressive acceleration, but its limited use could make it more of a novelty than a practical daily driver.

    New Tesla Roadster with sub-one second 0-60 mph time announced

    Elon Musk has announced plans for a new Tesla roadster with a sub-one second 0-60 mph time, but many details, including the availability and pricing, are still unclear. Musk has shared some information about the vehicle on Twitter, suggesting it may have a compressed air system instead of back seats. Some have speculated that the tech demo for this car could involve the vehicle taking brief flight, although this has not been confirmed. The excitement around this vehicle is high, with many seeing it as an impractical but fun addition to any car collection. However, skepticism and concerns about the feasibility and cost of the project have also been expressed on social media. Ultimately, it remains to be seen how close these rumors and speculation are to reality, and whether the final product will live up to the hype.

    Tesla Roadster Release Date Uncertainty

    The release of the Tesla Roadster, initially promised for 2020, is now projected to be in 2030. The uncertainty surrounding the project stems from the fact that some of the original specifications, such as the battery size and weight, seemed unrealistic based on current technology. It's unclear whether Tesla planned to ship the car with today's tech or if they expected significant advancements in the near future. The lack of clear information on the car's specifications has left many skeptical and questioning the feasibility of the project. Additionally, Tesla's history of missing on specs for other vehicles, such as the Cybertruck, adds to the uncertainty. The discussion also touched upon the potential risks associated with the high-performance requirements of the Roadster, particularly the extreme G-forces involved, which could pose health risks for passengers. Overall, the Roadster's release remains a topic of speculation and uncertainty, with many wondering what the final product will be like and when it will actually hit the market.

    Apple Drops Plans for Building a Car

    Apple's internal car project, Project Titan, has been officially canceled. Instead of creating their own car, Apple may focus on developing technology to control other cars or improve in-car experiences through CarPlay. The cancellation of Project Titan is significant due to the large investment and resources Apple had dedicated to the project for years. Some former employees may shift to generative AI teams, while others may leave the company. Apple's decision not to enter the car industry might save them billions of dollars and allow them to explore other growth opportunities. The secrecy surrounding Project Titan was impressive, with very few leaks or details emerging during its development. It's unclear if any prototypes were built, but testing might have involved using mules or disguising the car as another vehicle. Ultimately, Apple's decision not to build a car is a missed opportunity for a potentially game-changing product, but the company continues to innovate in various industries.

    Determining the cars of tech CEOs: A challenge

    Despite popular beliefs and speculations, it can be challenging to definitively determine the exact cars owned by high-profile individuals, including tech CEOs like Tim Cook and Steve Jobs. While Tim Cook owns a BMW 5 Series and a Porsche Boxster, as well as a Rivian and a Tesla, there have been numerous inaccuracies in reports about his car collection. Steve Jobs, on the other hand, was rumored to own various luxury cars, including a Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG, but the specifics are unclear. The misconceptions highlight the importance of fact-checking and the complexities of separating fact from fiction in the public domain.

    Crack Gate: Vision Pro Users Report Glass Cracking

    Some users of the Vision Pro headset have reported issues with their devices cracking down the middle, even without dropping them or causing any apparent damage. This issue, dubbed "crack gate," has been documented in multiple online reports and photos. The cause of the cracks is not yet clear, but some speculate it may be due to a design flaw in the contoured piece of glass. Users who have experienced this issue are understandably upset, as the Vision Pro headset retails for $3,500. Apple has not yet announced any plans for a recall or free repairs for affected devices. Despite the issue, some users continue to use their cracked headsets, while others have opted to replace them. The impact on the overall user experience seems to be minimal, as many users report that the cracks do not affect the sensors or performance of the device. However, the high cost of the Vision Pro and the unexpected durability issue may deter some potential buyers.

    Apple Vision Pro Glasses Cracking: Possible Software Bug or Design Issue?

    There seems to be a widespread issue with the Vision Pro glasses from Apple, where the glass is cracking, primarily from the bottom, despite normal usage. The cracks are initiating at the same point, leading some to speculate a possible software bug that prevents the glasses from entering sleep mode, causing them to overheat and expand, putting stress on the weak point of the glass. Apple, for its part, may be blaming users for mishandling the product, but the consistency of the cracks suggests a design or manufacturing issue. The glasses' curved design, while providing some structural stability, may also be contributing to the issue. The fact that the cracks are occurring over the LiDAR sensor adds to the intrigue, but this detail has not been widely reported in the media. Users who have experienced this issue are understandably frustrated, especially since the cracks don't necessarily affect the functionality of the glasses, and they may be out of the return window. The consensus seems to be that Apple should take responsibility for the issue and offer replacements or repairs for affected users.

    Durability concerns with Apple's Vision Pro glasses

    There are concerns about the durability of Apple's Vision Pro glasses, specifically regarding the potential impact of the LiDAR sensor on the glasses' frames and the aging of Apple's Fine Woven case. There have been reports of cracks appearing on the frames and the case showing signs of significant wear after only a few months of use. Apple has not yet addressed these issues publicly. Additionally, there are rumors that ASUS is releasing a larger version of their Zenphone 11 Ultra, which could potentially compete with Apple's glasses in the market. The discussion also touched upon the high cost of Apple's case and the disappointment some users have expressed about its aging. Overall, the conversation highlighted the importance of durability and value for consumers when it comes to investing in new technology.

    Discussing the potential demise of small Zenfones and the new Samsung Galaxy S24

    The conversation revolved around the potential demise of the small Zenfone and the excitement over a new, potentially smaller Samsung Galaxy S24. The speakers expressed their sadness over the possible loss of the Zenfone, but were intrigued by the new Galaxy S24's features, such as its ultrasonic fingerprint sensor and smaller bezels. Despite some reservations about One UI and its colorful, cartoonish feel, the speakers were generally positive about their initial experiences with the new phone. Overall, the conversation showcased the importance of personal preference in the smartphone market and the ongoing debate between larger, feature-rich phones and smaller, more compact devices.

    Exploring the Essentials of Daily Life: Pixel Phone and SpaceX

    The speaker is excited about his new Pixel phone and the MagSafe feature, which he finds essential for his daily use, particularly for wireless charging and car mounts. He also expresses frustration with waking up to find his phone with a weak charge and the importance of reliable charging. During the podcast, they discussed SpaceX and the moon landing by Intuitive Machines, a private company from Houston, but the speaker couldn't recall the name of the lunar lander. The podcast also covered the Fisker Ocean, a fully electric SUV, and the popular response to the autofocus video featuring the vehicle. The speaker had initially been skeptical of Fisker, but after learning more about the company, he acknowledged its potential. Overall, the conversation touched on topics ranging from technology and space to personal experiences and car reviews.

    Securing a loaner Fisker Ocean for testing

    The review process for the Fisker Ocean electric vehicle involved multiple attempts to secure a loaner car for testing and evaluation. The initial communication with Fisker resulted in a request for payment, which was a red flag for our team. Despite multiple follow-ups, Fisker continued to propose events or other methods of engagement instead of providing a loaner car. Eventually, our team was able to locate a Fisker Ocean at a local dealership and secured it for testing. During this time, Fisker reached out again, attempting to provide a car for review, but our team had already secured their own. The experience highlighted the importance of persistence in securing a loaner vehicle for testing and the potential challenges that can arise when communicating with car companies about review opportunities.

    Reviewer evaluates cars based on current features, not future updates

    The reviewer's assessment of a car is based on its current features and software, not on potential future updates. In this specific case, the reviewer had a negative experience with a Mitsubishi car and labeled it as the worst one he had reviewed, despite the manufacturer's intention to send a software update. The reviewer's policy is to evaluate products as they exist in the real world, and not based on promises of future improvements. The review sparked various reactions, with some people misunderstanding the title as clickbait or focusing on the stock price of the company instead of the product itself. The reviewer also noted that many owners of the car shared similar experiences, particularly with the keyfob and other software-related issues.

    Clarifying Misconceptions about Reviewer-Company Relationships

    During the discussion, it became clear that there are frequent misunderstandings and misconceptions about the relationship between the reviewer and the companies they cover. The reviewer clarified that they have never taken money from any companies for their reviews and do not own stocks in any companies they cover. They also addressed the common assumption that they short stocks or spread negative information to manipulate prices. The reviewer also acknowledged that people's emotions and investments can influence how they perceive and react to reviews, especially for personal items like cars. Despite disagreements, the reviewer expressed a desire to test the latest software update for the Fisker Ocean to see if it addresses some of the issues mentioned in their review. Overall, the conversation emphasized the importance of transparency and clarity in the review process.

    New car features frustrations

    The new car, despite having advanced features, has several issues that can be frustrating for the users. The key fob unlocking issue and the constant beeping and blinking of driver assistance features were the most annoying aspects mentioned. The car's software seems to have some bugs, and there's a possibility that some of these issues could be fixed with software updates. Another issue is the solar roof, which generates only a small amount of range, making it less effective for most users. The car's driving modes, although fun, lack clear definitions, and some features, like the glove box replacement, are not practical for everyday use. Overall, while the car has potential, its current state leaves room for improvement, particularly in terms of software and user experience.

    Considering unique features of different car trims during review

    While reviewing a car, it's essential to consider various trims and their unique features. However, some issues, like accidental button presses on the steering wheel or inefficient solar panels, cannot be fixed with software. The speaker in the discussion clarified that there was no payment or investment in the company's stock during the review process. Despite having some reservations about the car's launch, the reviewer acknowledged the car's potential and the need for honest reviews for the company's success. The speaker also emphasized the importance of companies delivering on their promises and not encouraging unrealistic expectations with future features. Overall, the reviewer advocated for focusing on core competencies and leaving business management to those more equipped for it.

    Experience the Future of Driving with Early Adoption

    While full self-driving technology may not be completely out yet, real people can experience its benefits today through early adoption. Fujifilm's confusing product naming was also discussed, with the group agreeing that both Fujifilm and Sony have had their hits and misses when it comes to naming their products. During the Tesla Semi event in 2017, Elon Musk famously compared driving a gasoline sports car to driving a steam engine with a side of quiche, a dish made from eggs. The group had a brief trivia moment when they misheard Musk's words and thought he said "kish," leading to a brief discussion about the meaning of the word. Overall, the episode touched on various topics including technology, product naming, and even food.

    Misunderstanding Quiche and Frittata

    During a discussion about breakfast foods, there was a misunderstanding about the definition of a quiche versus a frittata. Quiche was described as a pie with eggs, while a frittata was explained as a quiche without the crust. There was also a disagreement on the preference of crusty pies versus those without. Additionally, there was a debate on how to order eggs at a diner and the form of potatoes that come with the meal. Despite the confusion, it was mentioned that Quiche and Frittatas are both popular dishes, especially for those seeking high protein and low carb options. The conversation also touched on the SpaceX moon landing and a potential connection to the food discussion due to the name of the lander being a source of confusion for some. Overall, the conversation showcased the importance of clear communication and the potential for misunderstandings even when discussing seemingly straightforward topics.

    The cost of forgetting

    Forgetting important details can lead to regret and missed opportunities. During a discussion on the podcast Waveform, a participant named Andrew admitted that he had forgotten the name of an article he had read, which led him to second-guess himself during a trivia game. He jokingly tried to guess other names, but ultimately missed the mark. He expressed his frustration with not having multiple choice options and joked about the situation. Despite his mistake, Andrew promised to bring in a flight of egg dishes for the group the following week. The conversation also touched on the production of the podcast and the importance of subscribing, rating, and reviewing. The episode ended with some light-hearted banter and the revelation that the music in Andrew's head was the theme song from the TV show "Cheers." The overall message is that we all make mistakes, but it's important to learn from them and move forward.

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    Is Apple Breaking the Law?

    Is Apple Breaking the Law?
    This week, we finally talk about Apple getting sued by the Department of Justice in the United States, but only after talking about Threads finally federating (kinda). We also discuss the upcoming developer conferences that were announced by both Google and Apple and talk about what we expect to see. Lastly, we talk about Full Self Driving and break down what exactly you get with each tier of Teslas autopilot. Of course, we wrap it all up with a little trivia. Enjoy! Links:  Threads on ActivityPub: https://bit.ly/3TYoCeV Verge Threads Fediverse Beta: https://bit.ly/3x8AW32 PixelFed: https://bit.ly/3TT6xie Google I/O: https://bit.ly/4aCcshf Apple WWDC: https://apple.co/3TFuI2a Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra Galaxy AI Fine Print: https://bit.ly/3vyqtxC Galaxy AI Story: https://bit.ly/4aa8k8r DOJ Sues Apple: https://bit.ly/3TD4vl5 DOJ Court Document: https://bit.ly/3xdnM4R Electrek Elon Musk FSD: https://bit.ly/3TBH1wC Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Socials: Waveform: https://twitter.com/WVFRM Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David Imel: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Our Favorite Productivity Apps!

    Our Favorite Productivity Apps!
    This week, we have a fun bonus episode where David Pierce from the Vergecast tries to help Marques convince Andrew to use a proper to-do list app instead of his alarm clock. Throughout the episode they gather information on how Andrew handles his task list and then try to figure out which app would be best for him to use. Then we turn the tables and see how fast David Pierce can type the alphabet! Enjoy! Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Socials: Waveform: https://twitter.com/WVFRM Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David Pierce: https://www.threads.net/@imdavidpierce David Imel: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    iPhone...Powered by Google Gemini?

    iPhone...Powered by Google Gemini?
    This week, a lot happened! First, we talk about Mr. Beast making a show with Amazon before jumping into an Apex Legends hack that occurred. After that, Pixel 8a leaks get discussed before talking about the rumored deal that might put Google Gemini on the iPhone. We wrap it all up with a few wish list items that we hope to see from our favorite tech before getting into the trivia answers. Enjoy! Links: Mr. Beast on Colin & Samir: https://bit.ly/3Tl3M7S Mr. Beast and Amazon Prime Video: https://bit.ly/4asH70p Joanna Stern and Mira Murati Interview: https://bit.ly/3PtljJZ Apex Legends Hack: https://bit.ly/3PvYo0u Android Authority Pixel 8a Leaks: https://bit.ly/3TLRhDz Small Phones are Dead Video: https://bit.ly/3vbjiva Apple and Google Gemini Deal: https://reut.rs/3ve3PKP ChatGPT-5: https://bit.ly/4a4xUvt Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Shop products mentioned: Google Pixel 8 at https://geni.us/8YfSO Ember Mug 2 at https://geni.us/7jplAX Apple MacBook Pro M3 14” at https://geni.us/PSYdMeX Instagram/Threads/Twitter: Waveform: https://twitter.com/WVFRM Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David Imel: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    You Can’t Sell Your Cybertruck and Nikon Buys RED

    You Can’t Sell Your Cybertruck and Nikon Buys RED
    This week, Marques, Andrew, and David talk about all of the news of the week and a few from last week as well. They go over everything from not being able to resell Tesla Cybertrucks to Nikon buying RED cameras. Plus, they talk about Spotify adding music videos to its app and TikTok potentially making an Instagram competitor. Of course, we wrap it all up with some fun trivia. Enjoy! Links: Reselling a Tesla: https://bit.ly/3wPiiNs Mark McCann tries to Buy a Porsche: https://bit.ly/3wXvAru TikTok Photo App: https://bit.ly/3IDvVlv NY Mag Sells Mechanical Pencil on TikTok: https://bit.ly/49bsNbH Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Instagram/Threads/Twitter: Waveform: https://twitter.com/WVFRM Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David Imel: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices